Friday, August 21, 2009

Re: Your recent email to Richard Gage / agents / our group on 911Blogger

I support this note from Rodney. ... it's on Mark's judgement and free decision. ..
Or, at least, would you comment?

I further suggest email rules for our group
1. if you talk about somebody, please send email to that person too, - unless you do only 1-1
2. if somebody requests do-not-send-me emails, then do not send, but this clearly impedes the work of the group
3. if email generally regards, deals or mentions, at least public business, of our group, please copy members

Petr
:]

ps
if outside agents wanted to weaken 9/11 movement, they would
1. foster discord within groups with the intent to dissolve and/or weaken the groups, namely or at least most active and achieving groups
2. call 9/11 members mentally insufficient
3. introduce lawsuits against 9/11 members

ps 2
yesterday, our group was mentioned on http://911Blogger.com, first page, for most of the day. :]
It is a report about last Legislature meeting.


bcc my part to our private work blog. please sign up.

Thursday, August 20, 2009

Re: Agenda 8/19/09 meeting

Hello,

  • Oakland film festival at http://norcal-9-11-film-festival.blogspot.com.
    http://sf911truth.wordpress.com/
    I definitely want to be there, if we weren't, as a group, at preceding fund raiser. At least some of us were.
    More info always at our work private http://911DavisWeb.blogspot.com, where my emails end up.

  • Our festival.
    Who started it, Chris, Mark? Is Howard, Rodney doing it now?
    Anyway, again, group speaker should give short intro at both days. Rodney, Howard, Chris, Jack, Alex.
    I can take care of reporting afterwards.
     
  • A brief intra-group personal controversy, misunderstanding is over.
    Group, Let's.Acclaim 1. that nobody will mention it again.

  • "Lawsuit??"
    Group, Let's Acclaim 2. an advice to Howard, that it is not recommendable to think about proceeding ahead with any court action.

    If you want to make statements about 9/11 member's character/health and if you want to sue 9/11 member, those are bad precedents.
     
    You are not a government agent, but would act as one in this case.
    It is not permissible to the group's interests.

  • Group, Let's Acclaim 3. note to Howard that member who brings a suit, much less more or less baseless by now, against another 9/11 member, cannot easily be leading meetings, and/or facilitate for the group.

  • Group charting
    Voting to reduce the membership. Per Hank, 90% of votes of voting group members must be affirmative, if decision is taken to vote.

    Group members are officially rolled at Chris' http://Meetup.com/Davis911Truth.
    It is not perfect /group specific only/, but we do not have other our custom site under our domain name.

    Members are
    1. signed up
    2. attending
    3. voting members

    Voting inner members are Hank, Rodney, Mark, Jack, Jim, Chris, Howard, David, Ruth, me, and Alex, if she shows up at every 2nd meeting, due to distance.

  • Internet, domain advice
    • Registration on Mark, for the group, is fine.
      Mark is facilitating this well.
    • Control is in group's hands, per Mark, which is good.
    • Mark should restart his .net and .org sites. They are fine 9/11 sites, anybody is welcomed as the author/editor, coauthor.  
      I would appreciate if you can, Mark, give me space there, one tab/page/link, for the news feed, and/or couple words.
      The same should go for Chris.
    • The For site has been designated secondary, ad supporting 1 page site, per Howard.
    • .com, why will Jack not take authorship control, and build an official group site?
    • Does Rodney want authorship of .org site? 

Petr
Internet Advisor
http://911TruthDavis.blogspot.com – about the group
http://friendfeed.com/PetrNewshttp://friendfeed.com/petrbubenhttp://911UnitedWeInvestigate.blogspot.com 

  • Appreciate very much great call from Ken on that we ought to absolutely talk matters 9/11, at least for the most part.

  • I asked Ken to talk to us about his life and experiences supporting his causes on our next meeting.

  • If Hank wants narrow, advisory meeting, let's set something up. Is Mark the liaison?

  • Group's financing should be transparent, as much as possible. 






Mark > Ken apology stuff
Domain name stuff
Legal stuff
Voting stuff
Group reduction/expansion stuff
Oakland Film Festival stuff
 
Thank you all for sending your request stuff. Meeting starts at 7 PM sharp.

Sunday, August 16, 2009

Fwd: what are blogs for?

Blogs, websites are concentrated repository of knowledge and information.
It is for you, the author, and also for your readers... as much as you allow access.

They are here to assist you with some research, in getting some information or advice.

Lastly, they are a recorded history ... for fun, and for the history sake itself.


How is it different from emails?
When emails will be long gone, scrolled away, mixed up, this blog, with one theme, will be handy here.

How is it different from our meetings? 
Meeting is a real event, blog about it is recorded account of it.

I am not sending nobody's emails in anymore - but my more substantial email messages.

As i said, not waste time, every email should be it's own webpage, or blog entry.
Full of facts, value ... not necessary procedural items only.

Petr
Thanks for reminding me about that roggish Nexo box ... i got rid of it .... logged out of it, it did was stealing the focus ... that was the problem.

bcc to bl dweb, my part only



rules, film festival

I do agree with Mark on a need to set up rules, if we have stumbled into a question of asking a member to leave.

  • I suggest we go either with unanimous acclamation, or 2/3 vote of a voting inner group, PROVIDED conditions are found and met when:
    1. member repeatedly and impolitely disrupts meetings
    2. member repeatedly and seriously breaks agreed rules of the group
I do not think we are facing this situation, not by a far.


  • Ken
    Personally, I would offer preemptive formal apology to Ken, if not for his life experiences he arrived to, ahead of all of us.
    Somehow, I feel we know this issue was overblown, and now it is over with, or to be solved between these 2 gentlemen.

  • Film Festival
    As i mentioned, I think group ought to mount bigger, discernible presence, once a lecture size public gathers, on any forum we organize.
    I have seen only Chris giving a little bit of speech last time on Prof Jones lecture.

    We need solid, 15-20 minutes welcome, who we are, intro speeches from group members .. It for us too.
    We need to show website/s. No question about that. Speakers I have proposed in last email.
Issue/s we face are much bigger and more important than are internal discourse of last weeks.

Petr


my part only bcc to bl dweb




Hello,
As I suggested, I would start /always/ with nanothermite. ...For example,..... "This year brought a big news and change to 9/11 Movement - the irrefutable scientific evidence of the presence of the explosive nanothermite in the dust of WTC. That drove us, The Davis For 9/11 groups, to question again, and with renewed vigor, the results of the Government commission and government official version". ... and ease into your insider theme about Commission, details ...... somelike that. //////// whatever you write is fine with me.

  • Mission Statement
Here is one liner from me. Lets see if we see other proposals, too.

"Our mission is to gather a critical mass of public common knowledge, understanding and acceptance of the truth regarding the tragic events of 9/11, by educating and informing ourselves and others, in order to achieve new independent facts-based investigation, and finally, to witness resulting official recognition of the Truth of 9/11, so that history accounts can be officially corrected, and the war empire forces can be revealed, removed from power, brought to account, thus being defeated, for the sake of world peace and world prosperity".

  • Some design links, for those who want to hand code.


  • On membership question.
I probably must be missing something. I think the issue is practically cleared away now, as much as possible.

-That "somebody "really doesn't like" somebody else" is not a cause to make somebody stop attending the group... in my view

-I would, of course, always respect the majority verdict, but as it is now, I will not join any calls for reducing the membership.

-"Reckless and malicious?" .. I must be really missing this part.

-Yes, as I said, I clearly see what Mark did and is doing for the cause of 9/11. Others are just as much contributing to the common efforts, in their ways.

So no, I do not see a reason why Mark should be advised not to come to the meetings against his own decision.

Petr

  • On the Film Festival,
I am proposing, early enough,
1. day, Howard and Rodney speak.
2. day, Chris, Jim and Alex

Themes, up to you .. 9/11, intro, the group, your take, your experiences, activites, engage the public. ...
Bring a list of websites, display them, mention them, briefly discuss them.


bcc/ minus the contenion part/ to
http://911DavisWeb.blogspot.com - our work blog ... its private, will send you invites


Re: tonight's meeting August 12 09 / We are change Davis, ning.com blog, Rodney film series, Jack: bigger group

  • I agree with Chris.
In fact, evaluating last meeting, I would restrain myself to saying only that "all members behaved quite well" last meeting.

  • WeAreChange.org
This new, active group, has chapters in North America, and some over the world.

Best known to me is http://wacla.org, handing docs to Biden and lawmakers

Now WAC has been extended to Davis, as Alex alerted me to. Officially or not, extended by Jannifer Slattery, of this fame - http://911unitedweinvestigate.wordpress.com - her recent article in lezgetreal.


Join to show support, if you wish .....


Get several blogs on each system, show support to the cause, test, learn to blog, to communicate.

Ning is a blog i created pages for Rodney's Davis Film Forum, which he never accepted or looked up, though. :]

  • Rodney, to be joking, has quite "tortured", "tense" relationship with internet .... he has 40 people coming to this film showings, yet he would never tell them, rally them, get them on some web pages, to coalesce, to discuss, to gather ...
anyway:]]]

this doomed blog is at http://DavisFilmForum.ning.com :]

Petr


  • Larger group... to answer Jack a little bit, I think it wouldn't be a problem to enlarge, to have more people coming. ... some would talk, many would listen, all would have fun. ...it'd like a minforum, a school class ...itd be fun ... anybody can manage such a group - disseminate knowledge, let them talk, engage them ... nothing special
Jack, thank you for reminding me of a nuisance feature on this work blog, i fixed it now. this is why we test, cooperate, communicate ......
I was running that blog all logged in, so haven't noticed that logged off, Nexo was stealing the focus.




Hi Mark,
this is my public position, and you can send it further to other members of Davis 9/11.

I respect you very much as a leader, member, founder of 911 Davis movement, as very knowledgeable and very helpful and contributing person with great results.

My only reservation, - and I think its the core of the current problem, and i already communicated this to you, and to the group, - is that

  • the representation to Legislation meeting decisions might have been more open, and/or rotation established, or suggested.

Since I do not see this happening, I am taking position, and would vote, if any voting
  • to ABSTAIN from voting in this matter.

  • With recommendation, that you should continue to be part of the group, and L project should be yours, private, and the group should mount their own Legislation contact project effort.

    I think further this is between the senior members mostly to decide in the end.

You are right about Howard being the most disagreeing, and that voting never taking place. We don't have this narrow, voting group established yet.

Petr
in fact, Il forward this my response to the inner team.






Friday, August 14, 2009

Re: tonight's meeting August 12 09 // design links , mission statement, film festival

Hello,
As I suggested, I would start /always/ with nanothermite. ...For example,..... "This year brought a big news and change to 9/11 Movement - the irrefutable scientific evidence of the presence of the explosive nanothermite in the dust of WTC. That drove us, The Davis For 9/11 groups, to question again, and with renewed vigor, the results of the Government commission and government official version". ... and ease into your insider theme about Commission, details ...... somelike that. //////// whatever you write is fine with me.

  • Mission Statement
Here is one liner from me. Lets see if we see other proposals, too.

"Our mission is to gather a critical mass of public common knowledge, understanding and acceptance of the truth regarding the tragic events of 9/11, by educating and informing ourselves and others, in order to achieve new independent facts-based investigation, and finally, to witness resulting official recognition of the Truth of 9/11, so that history accounts can be officially corrected, and the war empire forces can be revealed, removed from power, brought to account, thus being defeated, for the sake of world peace and world prosperity".

  • Some design links, for those who want to hand code.


  • On membership question.
I probably must be missing something. I think the issue is practically cleared away now, as much as possible.

-That "somebody "really doesn't like" somebody else" is not a cause to make somebody stop attending the group... in my view

-I would, of course, always respect the majority verdict, but as it is now, I will not join any calls for reducing the membership.

-"Reckless and malicious?" .. I must be really missing this part.

-Yes, as I said, I clearly see what Mark did and is doing for the cause of 9/11. Others are just as much contributing to the common efforts, in their ways.

So no, I do not see a reason why Mark should be advised not to come to the meetings against his own decision.

Petr

  • On the Film Festival,
I am proposing, early enough,
1. day, Howard and Rodney speak.
2. day, Chris, Jim and Alex

Themes, up to you .. 9/11, intro, the group, your take, your experiences, activites, engage the public. ...
Bring a list of websites, display them, mention them, briefly discuss them.

I came over an interesting, shocking info, the material you talked about ...
it a comment from http://sacbee.com/
So Arnold cuts $1 Billion from California's Higher Education Systems.
The simple fact is 250,000 Students will be denied Community College Access and 40,000 student slots are now removed from the CSU System.
And, Arnold wants $1.9 Billion for New State Prisons, and there are no cuts to the California Department of Corrections, where according to Senator Loni Hancock of Alameda County, 54,000 CDC Employees watch over 180,000 State Prisoners.
About 80% of the "Felons" in the CDC are in for possession of less than a gram of Rock Cocaine, small amounts of Marijuana, and other Non-Violent Prohibition related "Crime".
End the Prohibition - and the felonization of our societies medical and social problems - and we save $10 Billion annually, we get to close Prisons, fire CDC State Welfare Cases who earn $80,000 per year base, and restore our schools.
Where is the sanity?


Monday, August 3, 2009

Top Ten Best National Parks You Don't Know About


Top Ten Best National Parks You Don't Know About

National Parks USA - http://NPS.gov

9/11 is a controlled demolition - per irrefutable scientific evidence - http://ae911Truth.org

Sunday, August 2, 2009

domain names, Twitter 911 Blogger

regarding this mysterious new domain registration, i checked, and 911Davis, and 911TruthDavis are wide open in all .xxx domains ..


Chris,
the Twitter 911Blogger resolution.

I did contact them, they are of course interested, so I am transferring http://Twitter.com/911Blogger to them ..... please take a look at a nice tweet i have there now :] ... it'l change soon .. :] .......

I hope they'l get on Friendfeed too.

Everybody, are you on Twitter? .. if not, why?


Mark,
would you please restart your domains under "Davis 9/11 Truth Mark Graham" header? ..
I'd like to be able to refer to those sites .....
thanks

:]

bcc to bl 911web, our/my "work", private blog/site


Saturday, August 1, 2009

http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice, reports, R. Gage ae911truth.org, webtools blog going private

Good afternoon,

  • interesting video you are mentioning. It is the same one i sent out couple month ago, after our German friend, sometimes attending, mentioned it to us

it is very compelling and persuasive, yes ! .... however, i myself, will stick for now with the notion theory that
  1. switched out or not, some airliner did physically strike the WTC Tower 1 - North(i believe),
  2. a military switched out airplane did physically strike WTC Tower 2 South
however in this video, the public TV footage, namely of second plane, is compellingly fake, and i believe it is, and i think it is a diversion

why would they put out a fake video of apparently military plane, instead of civilian? diversion of diversion? maybe because the military plane indeed struck tower 2, ...they just are putting out fake tv footage about the real event ....
diversion by making false, alternate reality falsely look true, as it indeed was real and true ...... welcome to the world of c1a, secret services ala etc m0ssad. top s-kills


  • R. Gage, http://ae911truth.org
    • apparently, 2 members of Davis 9/11 Truth group signed Richard's petition, arguably one of the most important statements and documents of the whole 9/11 movement and its history
    • i hope people are having good reasons not to sign up
    • further research shows that 10 other people from PRD - People's Republic of Davis, signed on to the petition
    • neither of them belongs, even formally, to Davis 9/11 Truth group ... /should they be invited to sign up at group meetup.com page?/

  • Woodland public library
    • beautiful building with beautiful insides. check it out !
    • anyway, i mentioned, while visiting, our newspaper - Hank distributor, to the librarian. they are investigating if they'l place it in their library
  • "New" stuff for Jim Molinari
    • we present the fact that
      • VP Joe Biden was handed the same document as yourself and is in its possession and reviewing it
      • several Congresspersons received it from http://wacla.org members also
      • also Sen Feinstein DC office received it
    • together with FEMA photographer story I mentioned earlier


  • I am making our work and webtools project blog site http://911DavisWeb.blogspot.com private.
    please sign up with your Google account if you want to access and/or follow it
Petr
bcc to gg bl ff




An interesting little film on local access TV last night, in which an argument was being made that a lot of the video being shown on television relative to the supposed crashes into the twin towers were fake.

They showed moving foregrounds against static backgrounds, etc.
Series of videos called "September Clues."

http://www.livevideo.com/video/6F393F4DE41C4CF798CBB438E6378129/september-clues-part1.aspx

Watch the nose-in/nose-out shots. Seems very compelling to me and of course very believable given all else we know. I can't immediately locate the rest of the videos, apparently 7 more.